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	<title>Comments on: More than bricks and mortar</title>
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	<description>in pursuit of the garden</description>
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		<title>By: Timothy Bowes</title>
		<link>http://folio.me.uk/2009/10/more-than-bricks-and-mortar/comment-page-1/#comment-2263</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Bowes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may find that your dear archbishop is a learned soul you should treasure, since there is a body of evidence to show that the development of common law was influenced by classical Islamic law. See for example, &lt;em&gt;The Islamic Origins of the Common Law&lt;/em&gt; by John A Makdisi, June 1999, &lt;em&gt;North Carolina Law Review&lt;/em&gt; 77 (5): 1635-1739</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may find that your dear archbishop is a learned soul you should treasure, since there is a body of evidence to show that the development of common law was influenced by classical Islamic law. See for example, <em>The Islamic Origins of the Common Law</em> by John A Makdisi, June 1999, <em>North Carolina Law Review</em> 77 (5): 1635-1739</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://folio.me.uk/2009/10/more-than-bricks-and-mortar/comment-page-1/#comment-2246</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have no time for this false religion, I think the shoulder of blame lies squarely with the &lt;em&gt;Church of England&lt;/em&gt;. Our dear Archbishop I would aquaint as the anti-Christ&#039;s prodigy. How any church leader could condone running &lt;em&gt;sharia&lt;/em&gt; law alongside our own common law is indefensible, when that medieval law denigrates women to so many hardships and second class citizenship. No other religion should be allowed to preach on the site of another&#039;s religion or ideology such as islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have no time for this false religion, I think the shoulder of blame lies squarely with the <em>Church of England</em>. Our dear Archbishop I would aquaint as the anti-Christ&#8217;s prodigy. How any church leader could condone running <em>sharia</em> law alongside our own common law is indefensible, when that medieval law denigrates women to so many hardships and second class citizenship. No other religion should be allowed to preach on the site of another&#8217;s religion or ideology such as islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stillwater</title>
		<link>http://folio.me.uk/2009/10/more-than-bricks-and-mortar/comment-page-1/#comment-1781</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Stillwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative. Good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative. Good article.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Bowes</title>
		<link>http://folio.me.uk/2009/10/more-than-bricks-and-mortar/comment-page-1/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Bowes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more interested in the preservation aspect. Things like this connect us with the past and Longsight has lost more than enough of its history. Once the headstones have gone the people who are buried there are invisible. 

On  the matter of whether the stones were moved, this photo from 1968 shows headstones near that west wall of the church, so possibly at a later date they were laid flat on top of the relevant graves?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/Display.php?irn=18633&amp;QueryPage=%2F&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=52829&amp;size=200x164&quot; alt=&quot;Photo from 1968&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

It isn&#039;t unusual for headstones to lie flat both inside churches and outside and for people to walk over them and for that to date back to the time when the person was first buried or for it to have been done later.  So I don&#039;t think putting the stones flat over the existing graves would be an issue. 

If I remember correctly there are many headstones lying flat at the front of the church (alongside St. John&#039;s Road), with some that aren&#039;t,  and they have been like that at least since the 1980&#039;s when I lived around there. 

As for whether the &#039;path&#039; was made of headstones. One of the YouTube videos has a shot which shows the name and inscription on one of the broken stones. Obviously these videos have to be treated with caution due to the agenda. But if that name can be matched to the records of someone who was buried at St.John&#039;s then it seems pretty clear that headstones that were there have been broken up on the site and I&#039;d suggest they were probably part of that path. 

I&#039;ve had a response from the planning department and will write more on my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more interested in the preservation aspect. Things like this connect us with the past and Longsight has lost more than enough of its history. Once the headstones have gone the people who are buried there are invisible. </p>
<p>On  the matter of whether the stones were moved, this photo from 1968 shows headstones near that west wall of the church, so possibly at a later date they were laid flat on top of the relevant graves?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/Display.php?irn=18633&amp;QueryPage=%2F" target="blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=52829&#038;size=200x164" alt="Photo from 1968" /></a></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t unusual for headstones to lie flat both inside churches and outside and for people to walk over them and for that to date back to the time when the person was first buried or for it to have been done later.  So I don&#8217;t think putting the stones flat over the existing graves would be an issue. </p>
<p>If I remember correctly there are many headstones lying flat at the front of the church (alongside St. John&#8217;s Road), with some that aren&#8217;t,  and they have been like that at least since the 1980&#8242;s when I lived around there. </p>
<p>As for whether the &#8216;path&#8217; was made of headstones. One of the YouTube videos has a shot which shows the name and inscription on one of the broken stones. Obviously these videos have to be treated with caution due to the agenda. But if that name can be matched to the records of someone who was buried at St.John&#8217;s then it seems pretty clear that headstones that were there have been broken up on the site and I&#8217;d suggest they were probably part of that path. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a response from the planning department and will write more on my website.</p>
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